topramn Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I know I am new here but my participation with NASA AZ has me wanting to know the facts. The only fact at this time is Charlie Allen is out. Rumors include: Charlie Allen has a new facility in Casa Grande that will be ready for 2014. (According to the article where he mentioned this location that he is studying, it wouldn't be ready till 2015 if he decided to build) Lucas Oil taking over lake and dirt track. GRIC announcing plans to continue track operations without Charlie Allen. NHRA optimistic of date in 2014 without Charlie Allen. Anything can happen in the next 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastC3 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I heard yesterday the Casa Grande deal fell through ..... again ... only a rumor ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az57chevy Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I'm not surprised. Anyone who would build anything on indian land is taking a chance. DING!DING!DING! every time I have an interaction (or my clients) with something on Indian land it has be a nightmare. And the "white man" has treated every Indian transaction above reproach? Nobody forces anybody to hop in bed with the Indian's. My guess is that land would make the EPA shrivel up with all the chemical spills from the racers Juts my two cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Pedal Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I just got off the phone with my track rep. At this point the deal is that the tribe is going to take over the track and try to manage and run it. Basically they are stealing $20M in infrastructure by choosing not to renew his lease. If this indeed happens, I will never set foot there again. The tribe has already reached out to the main track event promoters in an attempt to keep the venue. My guess is that it won't bode well and they will try to get Charlie to run it. If they do, I hope he tells the to go F themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertdawg Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 CRAP! I has teh sad face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastC3 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 At this point the deal is that the tribe is going to take over the track and try to manage and run it. Basically they are stealing $20M in infrastructure by choosing not to renew his lease. I would think there would be something in the lease language that would protect him regarding "tenant improvements" .... with that could be some legal grounds to recoup .... at least some of the investment .... Wouldn't you be surprised if he did sign on without it ???? Still a lot we don't know on the legalize side ..... Hopefully we can learn more before we roll out there singin songs and carryin signs .... (( oh wait ... we'd have to smoke somethin first ... right ?? )) I just hope it gets worked out ...... and no one looses their scalp in the process .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Knowing commercial leases a little, they will get no reimbursements... Dang Indiangivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azz061 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If Indians run it i have no interest in going. I also wonder if NHRA will still come and deal with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCMSH Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Knowing commercial leases a little, they will get no reimbursements... Dang Indiangivers ^^^^Yeah, this^^^^^It's the risk anyone who builds, develops, and improves on leased property assumes. I wouldn't be so quick to bash the tribe here, go lease office space in this town, put a bunch of money into it, and then see what compensation the owners give you when they won't re-up your lease after you've been a PITA tenant. I did work for FB years ago, wouldn't make that mistake again, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromley's Corvettes Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 My dad did some work for FB years ago and never got paid. $2860.00 We have also heard from others that never got paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Who is FB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTV8 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would extrapolate FB = FireBird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would extrapolate FB = FireBird. How did I miss that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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