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Hi guy,

I was rearended about 2 weeks ago by a dumb bitch in a Hertz rental Ford Taurus. She did roughly $5000 worth of damage to my car (I have SEVERAL estimated to prove this, including Joe's estimate from Classic Gold), plus I have sustained injuries to my neck and shoulder (I take 2 Advils every 3-4 hours for this). The $5000 is only for the exterior damages. My OEM CD player skips really badly since the accident (basically useless). Hertz rental insurance company is giving me a run around. After 50+ voice mails and several emails, they finally sent an appraiser 1 week after the crash (dumb f**k came last Friday), and today they're telling me that they're transferring my case into another department ("Special Investigation Unit") for further review and it'll be at least another week before I'd hear from them. I must have left a good 50 voice messages for these f**ks, and the only way to reach them is through email.

To add insult to the injury, the honest and fair people at the insurance company quoted me $2517.29 for all of this. I want to sue these mother f***ers. If they would just simply pay to repair the car to the pre-accident condition, I wouldn't be forced to do this. A**holes....

Does anyone know a good, aggressive attorney that can handle this case? If I invest the time into this, I want to get good results.

Thanks a lot in advance guys!

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Check out the Arizona Bar Association at www.azbar.org

Under Legal Resources you can find a list of lawyers. Also, check around with friends and co-workers.

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ok here is the scoop, Use your insurance. that is what you pay them for.

A: is she is at fault, your rates willnot go up.

B: they will get out an adjuster and start the process of getting you medical care ASAP.

C: They will pay for the repair out of there "pocket" and then sue (with inflation) the Hertz company.

Trust me on this, let your insurance company do this, that is what they are trained to do.

good luck

chad

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ok here is the scoop, Use your insurance. that is what you pay them for.

A: is she is at fault, your rates willnot go up.

B: they will get out an adjuster and start the process of getting you medical care ASAP.

C: They will pay for the repair out of there "pocket" and then sue (with inflation) the Hertz company.

Trust me on this, let your insurance company do this, that is what they are trained to do.

good luck

chad

:agree

Let your insurance do the fighting. All you will have to pay is your deductible and once they are done with Hertz, you should get all that back.

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ok here is the scoop, Use your insurance. that is what you pay them for.

A: is she is at fault, your rates willnot go up.

B: they will get out an adjuster and start the process of getting you medical care ASAP.

C: They will pay for the repair out of there "pocket" and then sue (with inflation) the Hertz company.

Trust me on this, let your insurance company do this, that is what they are trained to do.

good luck

chad

:agree

Let your insurance do the fighting. All you will have to pay is your deductible and once they are done with Hertz, you should get all that back.

You'll probably be lucky since you're dealing with Hertz. I've had two different accidents with uninsured motorists (imagine that in AZ). In both cases my insurance required I pay the deductible and they would sebrogate with the person who was at fault. Well guess what, I never saw a dime back. Just FYI, I was insured by State Farm at the time of both accidents. They are worthless if you ever have to make a claim but then what insurance co isn't??? :leaving

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You'll probably be lucky since you're dealing with Hertz. I've had two different accidents with uninsured motorists (imagine that in AZ). In both cases my insurance required I pay the deductible and they would sebrogate with the person who was at fault. Well guess what, I never saw a dime back. Just FYI, I was insured by State Farm at the time of both accidents. They are worthless if you ever have to make a claim but then what insurance co isn't??? :leaving

I disagree about State Farm. Been with them for nearly 20 years....made several claims...including an unisured motorist claim...they took care of everything every time...including getting most of my deductible back on that uninsured motorist one. My experience with them has been so positive, even if I could save $400 a year with another company I'd stay with them. :2cents

And on that uninsured motorist one, all I did was call State Farm one time...they did EVERYTHING else...I never had to call them again.

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You'll probably be lucky since you're dealing with Hertz. I've had two different accidents with uninsured motorists (imagine that in AZ). In both cases my insurance required I pay the deductible and they would sebrogate with the person who was at fault. Well guess what, I never saw a dime back. Just FYI, I was insured by State Farm at the time of both accidents. They are worthless if you ever have to make a claim but then what insurance co isn't??? :leaving

I disagree about State Farm. Been with them for nearly 20 years....made several claims...including an unisured motorist claim...they took care of everything every time...including getting most of my deductible back on that uninsured motorist one. My experience with them has been so positive, even if I could save $400 a year with another company I'd stay with them. :2cents

And on that uninsured motorist one, all I did was call State Farm one time...they did EVERYTHING else...I never had to call them again.

Not to hijack the thread but wait until your kids start driving. I had been with them for 20+ years and my Father-in-law was my agent. When my kids started driving they wanted approx $400 a mo increase for them to drive. Farmers was approx $225 and that's who I'm with now. Like I said, I had two uninsured motorist accidents and they couldn't find the people to collect from even after I gave the the information (remember I find people for a living). Guess you've been lucky!

Back to our regularly scheduled programming. I agree with the above. I'd start with your Insurance Co and if they act like State Farm then get a good attorney.

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What part of town are you in? If you live/wprl anywhere close to Alma School and Warner, I have a PI attorney friend that is in that area. If nothing else, I can get you a free phone consult. He has been in the business, in the valley for over 20 years and can get a lot more done than what we, as customers of the insurance companies are capable of.

I'm supposed to meet him for lunch tomorrow. Let me know if you are interested. If you have a case that he can help with, he will. If you are better off on your own, he'll tell you that as well.

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Not to hijack the thread but wait until your kids start driving. I had been with them for 20+ years and my Father-in-law was my agent. When my kids started driving they wanted approx $400 a mo increase for them to drive. Farmers was approx $225 and that's who I'm with now. Like I said, I had two uninsured motorist accidents and they couldn't find the people to collect from even after I gave the the information (remember I find people for a living). Guess you've been lucky!

Back to our regularly scheduled programming. I agree with the above. I'd start with your Insurance Co and if they act like State Farm then get a good attorney.

Sorry, gotta keep the hijack alive...last time. My mother-in-law works for Farmers...guess who their insurance company is.

But, like you said, everyone has their own experiences with companies. Just take Dawg for instance, he likes CnV, but how many here would not go there to save their lives?

Sorry, end hijack...back to our regularly scheduled program.

No matter who your insurer is, definitely let them take care of things...after all, that's what you pay them for.

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I have nothing more to add in the context of the subject. Good advise has been offerred already. :thumbs

I agree with Eddie though - State Farm was a be-otch when I filed a claim with them that was not my fault. I had to jump through hoops just to get my car fixed. OTOH, I now have Farmers and when I put our '03 Z06 into the guard rail at 80 mph, they never questioned a thing! The police report stated that speed may have been a factor, but Moi? Never! Farmer's didn't blink. Nor did they raise my rates. The adjuster candidly asked me what I wanted to do, since it was a Corvette and he understood how the resale value may be affected on a restored Vette. I told him I wanted it totaled, and I would buy a new one and he said he'd try, and by golly that's what I got! Unless they do something really stupid in the future, I'll be with them for my insurance needs. I'm only paying $46 a month for 300/100/100 on the '04 Z.

:rant

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I'm only paying $46 a month for 300/100/100 on the '04 Z.

Jeesh , you must be like 300 years old to get those kind of rates :):leaving

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I'm only paying $46 a month for 300/100/100 on the '04 Z.

Jeesh , you must be like 300 years old to get those kind of rates :):leaving

Old age has it's advantages. :thumbs

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Old age has it's advantages. :thumbs

:huh Discounts on Viagra and the Early Bird menu prices??? :lol:lol

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ok here is the scoop, Use your insurance. that is what you pay them for.

A: is she is at fault, your rates willnot go up.

Be careful you don't get bad advice here. Even if you are not at fault you will have a claim on your record on your insurance history. While you may want to let your insurance company handle the damages to your car, I think your insticnts are sound in that you are considering an accident lawyer for your injuries.

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I appreciate your help, support and advice guys! Sorry I couldn't get back with your any sooner; I've been very busy.

I talked to my company's lawyer and he said if I did sue them, the case would take over a year to settle, and I would have to drive my car banged up until the case was settled.

I emailed them and cursed the living crap out of them, their adjuster and their company. I think their automated system found one too many F-words and forwarded the mail to a supervisor or somebody on higher on the food chain. I recieved an email yesterday morning with a release form that I have to sign and fax back to them. Then they'll send me a check for their low-ball guesstimate and Joe @ Classis Gold would have to take it from there.

I had never been in a car accident before and this must have been one of the worst experiences of my life. Both Hertz and my insurance company (American Family) were as useless, worthless and unhelpful as they could possibly be.

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I appreciate your help, support and advice guys! Sorry I couldn't get back with your any sooner; I've been very busy.

I talked to my company's lawyer and he said if I did sue them, the case would take over a year to settle, and I would have to drive my car banged up until the case was settled.

I emailed them and cursed the living crap out of them, their adjuster and their company. I think their automated system found one too many F-words and forwarded the mail to a supervisor or somebody on higher on the food chain. I recieved an email yesterday morning with a release form that I have to sign and fax back to them. Then they'll send me a check for their low-ball guesstimate and Joe @ Classis Gold would have to take it from there.

I had never been in a car accident before and this must have been one of the worst experiences of my life. Both Hertz and my insurance company (American Family) were as useless, worthless and unhelpful as they could possibly be.

That is one crappy insurance company if they won't take care of you. All you should have to do is file a claim under your uninsured motorist and let them do the work. That is a load of crap. Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. :toetap

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Hi guy,

I was rearended about 2 weeks ago by a dumb bitch in a Hertz rental Ford Taurus. She did roughly $5000 worth of damage to my car (I have SEVERAL estimated to prove this, including Joe's estimate from Classic Gold), plus I have sustained injuries to my neck and shoulder (I take 2 Advils every 3-4 hours for this). The $5000 is only for the exterior damages. My OEM CD player skips really badly since the accident (basically useless). Hertz rental insurance company is giving me a run around. After 50+ voice mails and several emails, they finally sent an appraiser 1 week after the crash (dumb f**k came last Friday), and today they're telling me that they're transferring my case into another department ("Special Investigation Unit") for further review and it'll be at least another week before I'd hear from them. I must have left a good 50 voice messages for these f**ks, and the only way to reach them is through email.

To add insult to the injury, the honest and fair people at the insurance company quoted me $2517.29 for all of this. I want to sue these mother f***ers. If they would just simply pay to repair the car to the pre-accident condition, I wouldn't be forced to do this. A**holes....

Does anyone know a good, aggressive attorney that can handle this case? If I invest the time into this, I want to get good results.

I would suggest Kevin Garrison. ATTY. he is in Peoria, on Thunderbird and just one a big one for a guy that was drunk!!! send me a pm and I'll get you a phone number, or tell him Mikie referred you. Mike

Thanks a lot in advance guys!

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I would suggest Kevin Garrison. ATTY. he is in Peoria, on Thunderbird and just one a big one for a guy that was drunk!!! send me a pm and I'll get you a phone number, or tell him Mikie referred you. Mike

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. I recieved an email yesterday morning with a release form that I have to sign and fax back to them. Then they'll send me a check for their low-ball guesstimate

i'm not sure that is a good idea - if you sign that release, you may be stuck with their settlement - read the fine print VERY carefully!

it IS true that suing can lead to you driving a beat up car for well over a year - in fact, i have a friend that has been lingering in litigation for almost 2 years (his truck still isn't fixed, and he moved out of state, so he has to fly back for statements and "trials")

i suggest a good attorney - i don't know any, but i had this very question, "what if" just the other day.

there is a "new guy" in town, that was a well known accident attorney in Las Vegas, that has branched out here - something like the "heavy hitters" and he has a DEEP New York accent - i think they'd be my first call - and maybe someone like goldberg and osborn (they only do accident law) and then the discount lawyers (peterson johnson) I KNOW I KNOW, I watch way too much television!!!!!

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. I recieved an email yesterday morning with a release form that I have to sign and fax back to them. Then they'll send me a check for their low-ball guesstimate

i'm not sure that is a good idea - if you sign that release, you may be stuck with their settlement - read the fine print VERY carefully!

it IS true that suing can lead to you driving a beat up car for well over a year - in fact, i have a friend that has been lingering in litigation for almost 2 years (his truck still isn't fixed, and he moved out of state, so he has to fly back for statements and "trials")

i suggest a good attorney - i don't know any, but i had this very question, "what if" just the other day.

there is a "new guy" in town, that was a well known accident attorney in Las Vegas, that has branched out here - something like the "heavy hitters" and he has a DEEP New York accent - i think they'd be my first call - and maybe someone like goldberg and osborn (they only do accident law) and then the discount lawyers (peterson johnson) I KNOW I KNOW, I watch way too much television!!!!!

He is absolutely correct. your signature is a release and stipulates the claim is "paid in full". If you don't like the offer I would sugest an attorney.. As I said before, Call Kevin Garrison if you want to ring their bells. Your insurance agent should be able to tell you whether you can get it fixed independently, and let them sue for the difference. Mike

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***Not to be construed as legal advice***

Hi, folks. I haven't been on the board in quite a while (my bad). I switched jobs and my employer would monitor internet use. By the time I got home late slogging through traffic, then school, dinner, house maintenance, etc., I didn't get on the internet much.

Anyway, back to what I know. I'm not a lawyer, but an insurance defense paralegal. What I know is: insurance follows first the vehicle, then second the driver. If the other driver was driving a rental, there may be issues with whether or not there was coverage from Hertz, and that may be part of the delay. The insurance companies for Hertz and the lady are pointing fingers at each other. Regardless of ads, they are not in business to pay out money.

The above advice about using your own coverage is a good one. That is from personal experience from when I myself was rear-ended. Your insurance company will subrogate from the wrongful party/parties. This is the part that takes a long time. So, you may have to wait a while to get your deductible back. I, too, have State Farm, and they have been extremely good to me and my kids. Among us, we have had a total of 7 accidents. My rates went up when the accident was our fault. When I had my accident, I was rear-ended (not my fault) and my rates did not go up.

All of the above deals with the property damage. Then there is another issue of the personal injury. If you are still hurting, get to a doctor. From personal experience, insurance companies frown upon chiropractors. Start with your family doctor, who may refer you to a specialist. Do exactly what they tell you. If you miss appointments (whether doctor appts or physical therapy), the insurance co will come back at you and say "you missed an appointment, you must not have been hurt." Take care of yourself and your well-being first and foremost. There are many doctors are there who will wait for payment.

If they are asking you to sign a settlement, be very careful: Make sure it is for the property damage only. Sometimes, in fine print on the back, the check or draft will say something like "in settlement of all claims". Make sure it says "all property damage claims".

If you end up having to go through treatment, be careful not to be anxious to settle. I have seen cases where the client settled, even tho he was still in pain, only to find out a year later that he had a slipped disc or worse, he needed surgery. With that much in property damage, it's certainly no wonder you are in a lot of pain. Generally, insurance companies tie the dollar amount of the property damage to the personal injuries. Of course, there are exceptions like a car is totalled and no injuries at all, or, a 5mph impact, and the client suffered broken bones.

If they are jerking you around, as they did in my case, you may have no choice but to hire a lawyer. I don't know what area of town you are in, but have heard very good things about Kevin Garrison. Once you retain a lawyer, the insurance companies are NOT to talk to you directly. Your lawyer may also be able help you find a doctor who is willing to wait for payment (called a lien). But if you haven't gotten a lawyer, be careful what you say to any insurance representative. For example, an adjuster would call and start the conversation with, "Hi, how are you today". Being polite, you'd reply, "Fine". They would record that in their notes, worse on an audio recorder, and when it came time, they would produce that as evidence that you were not in any pain.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. If you have any more questions, please PM me.

Best of luck to you.

Angie

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For example, an adjuster would call and start the conversation with, "Hi, how are you today". Being polite, you'd reply, "Fine". They would record that in their notes, worse on an audio recorder, and when it came time, they would produce that as evidence that you were not in any pain.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. If you have any more questions, please PM me.

Best of luck to you.

Angie

a lot of good advice in your post - i take exception with the part i have bolded - if i'm not mistaken, any conversation that isn't announced that it is being recorded is not admissable into evidence unless - there is a legal wiretap on the phone line - or if the government is recording ALL yoru wireless phone calls as part of national security :rolleyes

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For example, an adjuster would call and start the conversation with, "Hi, how are you today". Being polite, you'd reply, "Fine". They would record that in their notes, worse on an audio recorder, and when it came time, they would produce that as evidence that you were not in any pain.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. If you have any more questions, please PM me.

Best of luck to you.

Angie

a lot of good advice in your post - i take exception with the part i have bolded - if i'm not mistaken, any conversation that isn't announced that it is being recorded is not admissable into evidence unless - there is a legal wiretap on the phone line - or if the government is recording ALL yoru wireless phone calls as part of national security :rolleyes

In Arizona, it is a legal recording as long as one of the parties to the conversation consents (that being the insurance adjuster). Contrary to popular belief, you do not have to be notified if a call is being recorded.

So, what you are saying is correct but the government isn't trying to admit the call as evidence. The call between agent and client would not be able to be recorded by the government absent a warrant since both parties would be unknowingly be recorded.

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Phil is correct, only one party needs to consent to the recording. That includes LE. If a LEO calls you he can record the conversation w/o your knowledge or consent. AZ is rather rare in this way.

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