HOXXOH Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 RR Bob and I are road tripping to Sacramento for a shot at some negative DA air on Jan, 3. We'll be leaving early morning Friday the 2nd and staying overnight in or near Sacramento. The track there open at 10AM Saturday and racing begins at Noon. The number of racers is much smaller, So you can get in a ton of passes. I made 13 passes in under 3 hours the last time. We'll either stay in Sacramento Saturday night or start back to Phoenix and stop in Stockton. Still undecided on that. The whole trip depends on the weather forecast and could be postponed as late as Thursday. Anyone is welcome to join us. So post here if you're interested in a fun road trip. Racing or even going to the track is optional. In RR Bob HOXXOH Maybe Mike G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRbob Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadC Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 have a great time guys and be safe on the public streets. try to keep the hooligans to a minimum.. that is in between sessions of bible study. and feeding the homeless. ...and cleaning oil off of wild sea creatures. chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertdawg Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Isn't there anywhere closer with good air ??? 750 miles each way, just damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Y Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Death Valley, but the track prep is terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest racingchester Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 How much faster do you run there? Son-in-law is thinking about going over presidents day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleezy E Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Holy crap, there must be something closer than sac town... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 How much faster do you run there? Son-in-law is thinking about going over presidents day! January 24th or the 31st is our rain date, but February 14th would work too. We want to avoid a Saturday TnT that has a Sunday race the next day. About 700-750' DA difference is good for .1 seconds on a stock or mildly modded engine. As the engine mods increase, the DA difference becomes less of a factor. For supercharged/turbo engines it takes about 1400' DA to gain .1 seconds. NA engines will be somewhere in between and related to how extensive the mods become. The DA at SIR will never get negative until getting temps down below 10 degrees, since it's at 3075' elevation. Speedworld managed to go about -200, but that was at or below freezing and traction was next to impossible. It'd take a 40 degree day and uncommonly high pressure for WHP to go negative. So no AZ track, nor any track at 1000' elevation is likely to have negative DA during the daytime when the sun can heat the track. However, with the Sacramento track at 105' elevation and the mountains to the immediate East that trap ocean breezes to increase pressure, the winter DA is negative most every day. Today it was -562 at Noon and -426 at 4 PM. More than enough time for the sun to heat the surface, while the air temps were still in the low to mid 50's. For comparison, WHP was 1203' at Noon and 1543' at 4 PM. My last pass of 10.927 at WHP was in 2124' DA, so theoretically I could run 10.5's in -760. The previous DA in Sac was -760 when Victor, Mike G, and myself went racing there and I'm hoping for that again. The current DA at WHP is 980, so if they wouldn't have cancelled the season, I could be making a 10.76 pass right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Holy crap, there must be something closer than sac town... The next closest track that will have a TnT day with a reasonable possibility of negative DA is in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest racingchester Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Thanks for the info. It will be interesting. Will let you know what he runs. (If nothing breaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 OH NO!!! If you see/understand this chart, you'll know why this Saturday (-900 DA at Noon) is really great, but the Jan 3rd is crap. I guess we'll have to see what our options are as the time gets close next week. http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/zmw:95655.6.99999?MR=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRbob Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Well, I think Tom has his problem fixed. I’m loaded up & ready to roll in the morning. Anyone else want to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Sacramento at Noon Saturday -700 DA, 4 PM -480. Sonoma at 9 AM Sunday -1400 DA, Noon -750, 4 PM -500. WHP at Noon Saturday 425, 4 PM 770 Probably the best WHP will have for the rest of the year is this Saturday. Gotta love that negative stuff in CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mikey Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 If you like to see the air you breathe, California is the place you need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertdawg Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Updates ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Updates ???? It's been good so far, with PB for both Bob and me. However, the weather tomorrow at Sonoma may bring even better PB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertdawg Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Cool, can't wait to see the numbers ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNBADAZ06 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 ....and ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 ....and ? Bob will be with you shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRbob Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks to Tom (HOXXOH) and Christopher Martin (SUBFLOOR) and their help re advising me what I was “doing wrong” launching my car with this new stall converter who says you can’t teach an old dog new tricks! Knowing that Tom launches his car in a 1.4 and 1.5 range and Christopher which has the same gear ratio and the same stall converter as me launches his car in the 1.3 range for their sixty foot range and I could not get below a 1.59 as a best sixty foot and now at 1.54 and 1.51 look out Phoenix here I come! Well!! I think my scanner will not work with this windows 8 version so…. My best run at Sonoma was… 1.51 60’ 6.92 660’ @ 97.71 mph 10.97 ¼ mile @ 120.95 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOTV8 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Woot! WTG Bob, congrats on the 10 second slip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNBADAZ06 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Thanks to Tom (HOXXOH) and Christopher Martin (SUBFLOOR) and their help re advising me what I was “doing wrong” launching my car with this new stall converter who says you can’t teach an old dog new tricks! Knowing that Tom launches his car in a 1.4 and 1.5 range and Christopher which has the same gear ratio and the same stall converter as me launches his car in the 1.3 range for their sixty foot range and I could not get below a 1.59 as a best sixty foot and now at 1.54 and 1.51 look out Phoenix here I come! Well!! I think my scanner will not work with this windows 8 version so…. My best run at Sonoma was… 1.51 60’ 6.92 660’ @ 97.71 mph 10.97 ¼ mile @ 120.95 mph HELL YEAH, Bob !!!!!!!! Welcome to the 10 second club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLs Mistress Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Look at the Geezer go ......did you spill your coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNBADAZ06 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I guess my #1 position is still intact I might try WHP this Friday, for shits and giggles, and see what I can get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unreal Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If you go I'll go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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