Jon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Final pull with my Callaway installed was 413rwhp. Here's the pulls with stock air intake and stock manifold versus stock air intake and ported manifold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieG Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Nice Torque gains across the board, I'm sure if you had more airflow froma a centri S/C it would be even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe@cpr.com Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Well we have proven that our ported intake will pick up power on even a stock car! sooo.... who is next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe@cpr.com Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Ok Tom here is my response to your post on corvetteforum I am keeping him secret because people will try and go over my head is what it really boils down to. I have time invested into this as well and deserve to be compensated for it. And it makes plenty of sense of course the car will pick up power with a tune and guess what it didn't go into any sort of unsafe a/f territory. Jon was not at any sort of losing deal on this, he got a great deal on a ported ls3 intake (cheaper than i sell them for retail) didn't pay for any dyno time and didn't pay for any install labor. I proved with out a doubt this intake picks up power and naturally someone has to try and denounce it. If i had messed w/ any tuning people would say well look there it picked up power only because of the tune. that was not my goal at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 There will always be somebody nit-picking something. It went from 11.7 air fuel near peak torque to 11.9 when we put the ported manifold on. In the upper RPM's the air fuel was 12.2-12.3 regardless of stock or ported intake. Do I think it would make more power with a tune? Sure, but I'm not going to spend my money or Joe's money to show an extra few rwhp on a stock application. I think what we have shown is valid. Porting a stock LS3 intake is worth power with everything else stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 Nice Torque gains across the board, I'm sure if you had more airflow froma a centri S/C it would be even better Pfadt headers next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertdawg Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 So about 10hp, nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 So about 10hp, nice! Also, as I add headers and a cam, the ported intake will have more of an impact on the combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieG Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Nice, just make sure you get the right size of headers for the application, if you get too large you can actually lose power until you have the other supporting mods in place, I purchased mine on based upoun my long term goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe@cpr.com Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Pdadt makes one size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 Nice, just make sure you get the right size of headers for the application, if you get too large you can actually lose power until you have the other supporting mods in place, I purchased mine on based upoun my long term goals. I made that mistake on my GTO when I was talked into 1 7/8" headers. The Pfadt are 1 3/4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieG Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Nice, just make sure you get the right size of headers for the application, if you get too large you can actually lose power until you have the other supporting mods in place, I purchased mine on based upoun my long term goals. I made that mistake on my GTO when I was talked into 1 7/8" headers. The Pfadt are 1 3/4". 1 3/4 will be perfect for NA and light boost applications, plus the Pfadt look awsome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Fangs Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Nice, just make sure you get the right size of headers for the application, if you get too large you can actually lose power until you have the other supporting mods in place, I purchased mine on based upoun my long term goals. Smart guy right here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicD Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 First off don't post on corvetteforum, period. Secondly, don't read corvetteforum. The end. LOL Oh yeah, I once had tuned a KB vette for somebody and they went and posted it up there about how the VE table was over 100% and that it wasn't possible or accurate. I just shook my head and didn't even bother to respond because the bandwagoners that don't have a clue all posted up about how that was impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Fangs Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I guess you could have really f*cked them up if you told them an NA motor can go over 100% VE, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicD Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I guess you could have really f*cked them up if you told them an NA motor can go over 100% VE, LOL. It was crazy really, they were saying that because it wasn't into boost in the vacuum regions there was no way it could be over 100% VE. One of them was the "tuner" I believe for kenne bell. I can't even begin to count how many cars tuned speed density that go well over 100% in the VE table with nothing more than a camshaft or even bolt ons sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 First off don't post on corvetteforum, period. Secondly, don't read corvetteforum. The end. LOL What else am I going to do on night shift at 3am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicD Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 First off don't post on corvetteforum, period. Secondly, don't read corvetteforum. The end. LOL What else am I going to do on night shift at 3am? I much prefer reddit or one of those types of sites. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNBADAZ06 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 First off don't post on corvetteforum, period. Secondly, don't read corvetteforum. The end. LOL What else am I going to do on night shift at 3am? All I can picture is Homer Simpson working at the nuclear plant.....at 3 a.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 All I can picture is Homer Simpson working at the nuclear plant.....at 3 a.m. Lol. I'm not a Reactor Operator. I work in the turbine building next to the 1200# steam pipes and 450# feed pipes. Pumps powered by 13.8kV and 4.16kV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNBADAZ06 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 All I can picture is Homer Simpson working at the nuclear plant.....at 3 a.m. Lol. I'm not a Reactor Operator. I work in the turbine building next to the 1200# steam pipes and 450# feed pipes. Pumps powered by 13.8kV and 4.16kV. Sounds like Navy speak to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 All I can picture is Homer Simpson working at the nuclear plant.....at 3 a.m. Lol. I'm not a Reactor Operator. I work in the turbine building next to the 1200# steam pipes and 450# feed pipes. Pumps powered by 13.8kV and 4.16kV. Sounds like Navy speak to me Pretty much 90% of the people in civilian nuclear power started in Navy nuclear power. It used to be more, but the nukes coming out of the Navy are getting dumber. So we've been hiring college grads with engineering and chemistry degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNBADAZ06 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 All I can picture is Homer Simpson working at the nuclear plant.....at 3 a.m. Lol. I'm not a Reactor Operator. I work in the turbine building next to the 1200# steam pipes and 450# feed pipes. Pumps powered by 13.8kV and 4.16kV. Sounds like Navy speak to me Pretty much 90% of the people in civilian nuclear power started in Navy nuclear power. It used to be more, but the nukes coming out of the Navy are getting dumber. So we've been hiring college grads with engineering and chemistry degrees. I wonder if Homer Simpson was ex-Navy ??? J/K.......didn't mean to de-rail the thread. Back to the big boy discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Ok Tom here is my response to your post on corvetteforum I am keeping him secret because people will try and go over my head is what it really boils down to. I have time invested into this as well and deserve to be compensated for it. And it makes plenty of sense of course the car will pick up power with a tune and guess what it didn't go into any sort of unsafe a/f territory. Jon was not at any sort of losing deal on this, he got a great deal on a ported ls3 intake (cheaper than i sell them for retail) didn't pay for any dyno time and didn't pay for any install labor. I proved with out a doubt this intake picks up power and naturally someone has to try and denounce it. If i had messed w/ any tuning people would say well look there it picked up power only because of the tune. that was not my goal at all! Not a problem Joe. I had no idea who was involved, so I was just trying to caution Jon to look past the free part of the arrangement. From his initial description, it looked like it could have been the old carpet cleaner scam where the homeowner always loses. Most manufacturers provide free products in exchange for consumer test results, but since you're the retailer, that part didn't apply either. While I agree with the before/after test without a tune to see what the manifold does, almost anyone doing that mod will also tune. So the ultimate test would have been 4 pulls. 1 bone stock, 1 stock w/tune, 1 ported w/stock tune, and 1 ported w/tune. Of course, getting Nic involved would add to the complexity. I did think it was interesting to see what the CAI did, even though a CAI dyno result doesn't mean much compared to real world driving. The end results were pretty much what I expected with the exception of the a/f ratio at higher RPM. I'm sure he'll be happy after the header install and tune. It already makes me think about switching to Pfadt, so I'll be waiting for those results too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOXXOH Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 So about 10hp, nice! Also, as I add headers and a cam, the ported intake will have more of an impact on the combo. I know I picked up more power from the ported intake even after I tweaked the tune. You're going to be much happier with the header/tune now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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